In a wide-ranging, pre-election preview, United Independent Movement (UIM) President Neil de Beer torpedoes rumours of a Multi-Party Charter (MPC) collapse; gives his take on the daggers flying in former President Jacob Zuma’s MK party; and hails Patriotic Alliance (PA) President Gayton McKenzie’s combat strategy, saying the “Green Machine” is moving down to the Cape
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In a wide-ranging, pre-election preview, United Independent Movement (UIM) President Neil de Beer torpedoes rumours of a Multi-Party Charter (MPC) collapse; gives his take on the daggers flying in former President Jacob Zuma’s MK party; and hails Patriotic Alliance (PA) President Gayton McKenzie’s combat strategy, saying the “Green Machine” is moving down to the Cape like an “oil slick” and has left the Democratic Alliance (DA) overwhelmed by the Brown Child Revolution. He discusses a post-election three-faction scenario comprising the MPC, the RET (Radical Economic Transformation), and the African National Congress (ANC). “And the question is, whom of those three are going to have coffee with whom, except I know they already having coffee.” However, De Beer vows that his UIM party would never form a government with the ANC or the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF). “Then we go it alone. We cannot sit with this country’s fiscal, economical enemy.”
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Highlights from the interview
ANC’s Logistics Dominance: De Beer emphasizes the ANC’s logistical prowess over political strategy, noting their ability to mobilize voters effectively.
Viral Statement: De Beer’s statement about the ANC’s focus on logistics has gained national attention, highlighting a widely recognized aspect of the party’s operations.
Voter Turnout Analysis: He discusses voter registration and the potential turnout, estimating a significant drop from registered voters to actual voters.
ANC’s Electoral Needs: De Beer calculates the ANC’s required voter numbers for electoral success, highlighting the party’s strategic understanding of its needs.
Potential Anarchy: There’s concern about post-election scenarios, including the possibility of anarchy and the ANC’s response to a loss of majority.
Defence of Constitution: In case of crisis or refusal to transfer power, De Beer advocates for legal recourse, including international bodies like the ICJ, to defend constitutional principles.
National Stability: He underscores South Africa’s strategic importance for global stability, especially in light of potential regional crises.
People as Solution: De Beer stresses that politicians are not the sole solution to South Africa’s challenges; instead, he calls for unity among the people regardless of divisions.
Personal Commitment: He expresses personal dedication to the country’s freedom and unity, citing his role as a grandfather as a motivating factor.
Call for Unity: De Beer’s final message is a plea for unity among South Africans to overcome challenges and fulfill the nation’s potential.
Extended transcript of the interview ___STEADY_PAYWALL___
00:00:05:src3 – 00:00:src5:src9
Chris Steyn:
With only weeks to go before the election, we get an update from Neil De Beer, the president of United Independent Movement, a party in the multi-party charter. Welcome, Neil.
00:00:src5:2src – 00:00:44:src4
Neil De Beer:
Hey. Good morning. A few days to go. This madness, this jostling, this lying, this promising is over. And then hopefully, people like me can get into Parliament to get stuck in so that we can change the trajectory of this country for a better future. So yes. Good to see you. Good, as always, to be on your show.
00:00:44:src6 – 00:00:48:src6
Chris Steyn:
Might we start with the MPC? How is it holding up?
00:00:48:src8 – 00:0src:src5:0src
Neil De Beer:
It’s holding. You know, Chris, I saw some flabbergasting scenarios of people speaking and saying it’s collapsed. It’s over. Absolute rubbish, utter rubbish. I am a man that doesn’t waste my time. I don’t mince my words. If something is not conducive or is not constructive, I’ll leave. I’m there. In actual fact, I chaired the last one, of our leadership MPC. Every two weeks we have our differences.
00:0src:src5:03 – 00:0src:4src:02
Neil De Beer:
We are allowed to have our opinions, and it is our right as individual parties to continue raising our own manifestos, our own ideology. But the fact that the MPC has collapsed is utter rubbish and nonsense. We will keep on going. We get over it. We debated; the leaders that are sitting around that table are not children. We know what we are facing.
00:0src:4src:04 – 00:02:04:06
Neil De Beer:
We are not the alternative hope to this country. We are the government in waiting, and that is a fact. So, we we, we we chastise each other. But Chris, we also motivate each other that we stay the course and that we continue moving together to forge a government for the people, by the people, and indefinitely for this country’s future.
00:02:04:src2 – 00:02:src7:src8
Chris Steyn:
Neil, what do you make of the latest Ipsos poll that gives the ANC 40.2, the DA 20.9, the EFF srcsrc.5, and MK 8.4 percent?
Read more: Gayton declares all-out war on the DA…
00:02:src7:20 – 00:02:40:05
Neil De Beer:
A poll is like a casino. You know, you put it on red or black, one green. I must tell you, I did not always put relevance to polls because I think sometimes they are biased and sometimes they work on emotion. But what we now realize, Chris, is that continual polling from different segments, in actual fact, creates an algorithm.
00:02:40:07 – 00:03:04:srcsrc
Neil De Beer:
So that is important. We can’t just write off polls. We’ve got to look at it because they are, may I call it, snapshots of opinion. And I’m saying that you can see the algorithm starting to move, that no doubt the ANC will not get 50 plus one. And you can see that MK party after its third victory in court is absolutely gaining momentum.
00:03:04:srcsrc – 00:03:25:20
Neil De Beer:
But I think the scenarios of over src2 and src3, 40%, I think it’s a bit much. The DA is constantly staying by 20 and above. I think that’s where the average parties like myself. The New Kids on the block. We’re looking for the 0.8 to point nine, the src%, the relevance being the src%. So we’ve got membership in Parliament.
00:03:25:20 – 00:03:34:22
Neil De Beer:
But the poll, I don’t think it’s far off. I don’t think though 40. I think they’re going to scrummage between 42 and 44.
00:03:35:00 – 00:03:47:src4
Chris Steyn:
Neil, now in a rather dramatic development, MK has expelled Jabulani Khumalo, the very man who registered the party on behalf of the former president, Jacob Zuma. Do you have any inside info on that
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